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erda ([personal profile] erda) wrote2009-06-26 12:08 pm

Sometimes fandom makes me tired

Okay, let's see if I've gotten this right in my head now. I've learned a lot of things from fandom, so I thought I'd give back by making a list to help people step all over each other better. The lower the number of the type of story that gets you off, the more feminist and morally superior person you are. The higher the number of your favorite type of porn, the more you suck. Some categories overlap and require a bit of interpretation, but I think this does well as an overall outline.


1.Het – yes, baby, if you like het you are number one and win the feminist competition. You have no issues and are totally well adjusted, healthy, not carrying any of those black marks of mental illness so many of the people below you have to deal with. Feel free to ridicule, revile and stomp all over everyone below you.
2.Femslash- you're still okay if this is your thing, because you still love women. Pat yourself on the back.
3.Threesomes and moresomes- as long as there's at least one good woman in the mix, you can rest your conscience. However you might want to ask yourself why you feel you need men to enjoy your porn. You don't want to become dependent on men for anything.
4.Extremely schmoopy vanilla slash- baby you're weak, but at least your heart is in the right place. Just as long as the guys switch it up and you have no preference for top or bottom, cause man, that means you got some internalized misogyny there which everyone above you on this list is utterly free of.
5.General kinks-haha, you're a little strange but you will be tolerated by most of the people who don't read that stuff, though secretly they think you are messed up.
6.BDSM-yeah, you need help. Not only do you hate women, you probably like to beat up on men, too.
7.Watersports- baby you're sick. Hardly anyone in fandom reads this stuff. Er, at least, hardly anyone comments on it.
8.Bestiality-stay in your own comms, okay? We don't want that shit around here.

Does that about cover it? Feel free to go at each other; it's what we're here for, right? We have no larger enemy to fight.
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[personal profile] glitterandlube 2009-06-26 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, on this note: I was told a lot of the racism/sexism fighting in SGA that for some reason sparked off in the slash half of things [on that one story by someone whose name I forget about the coffee shop?] actually was mostly a reaction to stuff in the het half.
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[personal profile] facetofcathy 2009-06-26 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Really, the barista kerfuffle had hidden depths. I can actually see that. I did skim an SGA bigbang that was a civil war era AU. The only real issue with Teyla being black was that she and John had to go to Canada to get married, because of course we never had any racism here.
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[personal profile] glitterandlube 2009-06-26 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Hidden depths? TBH all I saw was the same people who pulled that shit in DCU pulling it in SGA and then trying it in Merlin and still getting respect from people because the over-all issue is so fucking important to the world I guess.

Excuse me, I'm very very pissed and have been for more than a year.
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[personal profile] facetofcathy 2009-06-26 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
No, no--you feel how you feel, that's cool.

The whole thing was before my time, so I know I don't have a good grasp on the undercurrents.

I thought the story in question was fine, and not a useful example for addressing any larger issue, but I'm not sure any single story ever would be useful in talking about a big issue.
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[personal profile] glitterandlube 2009-06-26 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh, yeah, no, it was not a good example. That is a recurrent problem - people who are angry over some issue hold it until they explode in some situation where it makes no sense. And because the issue is valid or an emotional one, no one steps in to say, hey, this isn't valid. The people also lose no credibility and get to make the same mistakes over and over.

I've been here since 2000 - Smallville was my first big slash fandom, and man, I don't remember it like this.